When Jesus’ disciples asked Him about the sign of His coming and of the end of the world (Matt 24:3), He taught them about events to recognize the beginning of sorrows (Matt 24:8), and what would happen after great tribulaton when Jesus will return from heaven. (We will read Matt 24:37-51):
Matt 24:37-39 But as the days of Noe were,
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood
they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The point here is, that people can be right beside each other, yet God’s wrath is pointed and precise:
Matt 24:40-41 Then shall two be in the field;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Jesus gave the instruction is to WATCH and BE PREPARED for His coming:
Matt 24:42-44 Watch therefore:
for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Jesus’ coming will be a time of JUDGMENT .... a time for REWARD of His saints:
Matt 24:45-47 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
Jesus’ coming will be a time of JUDGMENT .... a time for PUNISHMENT of His enemies:
Matt 24:48-51 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
According to PAUL also, writing by inspiration of God to the Thessalonians, when Jesus comes from heaven .... it will be a day of judgment for EVERYONE. (We will read 2 Thess 1:7-10):
On the LOST, Jesus’ coming will be a day of wrath and vengeance:
2 Thess 1:7-9 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
On the SAVED, Jesus’ coming will be a glorious day:
2 Thess 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
According to PAUL also, writing by inspiration of God to the Romans, when Jesus comes from heaven .... it will be a day of judgment for EVERYONE. (We will read Rom 2:5-11):
Rom 2:5-6 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
On the SAVED, Jesus’ coming will be a glorious day of REWARD and everlasting life:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
On the LOST, Jesus’ coming will be a day of wrath and vengeance:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Paul repeated it again .... on the LOST, Jesus’ coming will be a day of wrath and vengeance:
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Paul repeated it again .... on the SAVED, Jesus’ coming will be a glorious day of REWARD:
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
NO ONE will be exempt from God’s righteous judgment:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
NO ONE will escape the judgment of God .... which will be .... when Jesus comes the 2nd time:
Heb 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die,
but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
God’s wrath is targeted against His enemies .... not toward His saints:
Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth;
the LORD revengeth, and is furious;
the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries,
and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.
Even back in MOSES’ day, God promised BOTH vengeance on His enemies and reward for His saints:
Deut 32:41-43 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people:
for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries,
and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.
PETER also taught God’s judgment on BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous .... in the same day:
2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how
to deliver the godly out of temptations,
and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
JOHN also taught God’s judgment on BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous .... in the same day:
Rev 11:15-18 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come,
and the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great;
and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
In the CONTEXT of the day of the Lord, PAUL told the saints to watch and be sober:
1 Thess 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
In the CONTEXT of the day of the Lord at the end, PETER told the saints to watch and be sober:
1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ are always focusing on Paul’s ‘program’ or Israel’s ‘program’ .... they better REPENT (change their mind) and get with GOD’S PROGRAM to see that when Jesus returns from heaven, in the end, at the last trump .... it will be HIS day!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Tuesday, September 28, 2010
An Instant Advantage?
During Sunday Evening Story-Time, on September 5, 2010, the IL teaching elder was talking about 1 Thess 4:16-17, and said, ‘The dead in Christ have an advantage over the alive because they get their glorified bodies an instant before we do.’ He mentioned this more than once. So what is his point in that? It seems like he is just filling up his story-time.
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Cunning Royal Jester kept focusing on the ‘reunion with the Thessalonians’ loved ones’ as ‘the comfort factor’ .... yet he teaches that ONLY the saints that have believed through PAUL’s ministry will be in what-he-calls ‘the rapture’. Therefore, what about any of the Thessalonians’ relatives or friends who trusted Christ through some other minister, such as Apollos, Peter, or even Christ Himself? Saints alive during the time Paul wrote this epistle had certainly believed through other ministers besides him. The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that there will be NO gathering together with them. He puts them in a different program, and a different church, and a different resurrection, and a different destiny:
1 Cor 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith,
I am of Paul (that’s the ‘mid-Acts hyper-dispensationalist’ group who claim to ONLY follow Paul);
and I of Apollos (he is not really an issue for the ‘mid-Acts-ers’ today);
and I of Cephas (that’s Peter, who ‘mid-Acts-ers’ say taught a DIFFERENT gospel than Paul taught .... and therefore, they believe a person cannot be saved today through Peter’s writings);
and I of Christ (‘mid-Acts-ers’ teach that Jesus in His earthly ministry was ‘another Jesus’ and that a “right-divider” cannot follow Christ).
GOD’s word through Paul in the same epistle said that it is CARNAL to make an issue over WHICH preacher taught you the gospel. ‘Mid-Acts-ers’ really need to pay attention to that:
1 Cor 3:4-5 For while one saith, I am of Paul;
and another, I am of Apollos;
are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos,
but ministers by whom ye believed,
even as the Lord gave to every man?
Paul taught by inspiration of God .... that the MAN who brought you to faith in Christ did not matter. But to the ‘mid-Acts-ers’, it does. If you don’t claim to be ‘of Paul’ .... then they EXCLUDE you from being in ‘the church, the body of Christ’. They make you an OUTCAST, when the scripture says that you belonging to Christ is the issue:
1 Cor 3:21-23 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul,
or Apollos,
or Cephas,
or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
The Cunning Royal Jester leaves all those saints in the ground, that have not believed through PAUL, at his ‘rapture-resurrection’. The Thessalonian saints would have no hope of reuniting with them! The Jester and the Jokers who promote his paradigm needs to accept GOD's WORD:
1 Thess 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
The Cunning Royal Jester preaches doctrines that are contrary to plain verses of scripture .... even those written by Paul.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Cunning Royal Jester kept focusing on the ‘reunion with the Thessalonians’ loved ones’ as ‘the comfort factor’ .... yet he teaches that ONLY the saints that have believed through PAUL’s ministry will be in what-he-calls ‘the rapture’. Therefore, what about any of the Thessalonians’ relatives or friends who trusted Christ through some other minister, such as Apollos, Peter, or even Christ Himself? Saints alive during the time Paul wrote this epistle had certainly believed through other ministers besides him. The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that there will be NO gathering together with them. He puts them in a different program, and a different church, and a different resurrection, and a different destiny:
1 Cor 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith,
I am of Paul (that’s the ‘mid-Acts hyper-dispensationalist’ group who claim to ONLY follow Paul);
and I of Apollos (he is not really an issue for the ‘mid-Acts-ers’ today);
and I of Cephas (that’s Peter, who ‘mid-Acts-ers’ say taught a DIFFERENT gospel than Paul taught .... and therefore, they believe a person cannot be saved today through Peter’s writings);
and I of Christ (‘mid-Acts-ers’ teach that Jesus in His earthly ministry was ‘another Jesus’ and that a “right-divider” cannot follow Christ).
GOD’s word through Paul in the same epistle said that it is CARNAL to make an issue over WHICH preacher taught you the gospel. ‘Mid-Acts-ers’ really need to pay attention to that:
1 Cor 3:4-5 For while one saith, I am of Paul;
and another, I am of Apollos;
are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos,
but ministers by whom ye believed,
even as the Lord gave to every man?
Paul taught by inspiration of God .... that the MAN who brought you to faith in Christ did not matter. But to the ‘mid-Acts-ers’, it does. If you don’t claim to be ‘of Paul’ .... then they EXCLUDE you from being in ‘the church, the body of Christ’. They make you an OUTCAST, when the scripture says that you belonging to Christ is the issue:
1 Cor 3:21-23 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul,
or Apollos,
or Cephas,
or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
The Cunning Royal Jester leaves all those saints in the ground, that have not believed through PAUL, at his ‘rapture-resurrection’. The Thessalonian saints would have no hope of reuniting with them! The Jester and the Jokers who promote his paradigm needs to accept GOD's WORD:
1 Thess 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
The Cunning Royal Jester preaches doctrines that are contrary to plain verses of scripture .... even those written by Paul.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Monday, September 27, 2010
It’s Elementary, My Dear Watson
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on September 19, 2010, speaking of 1 Thess 5:2, the IL teaching elder asked, “Am I being clear enough with that? Here it’s called the day of the Lord. You and I are NOT going to experience the day of the Lord.”
Then he mentioned the references of 2 Thess 2:2 and Phil 1:6, and said, “We ARE going to experience the day of Christ.”
Then he said, “It’s elementary, my dear Watson.”
I would suggest he read the CONTEXT of 2 Thess 2:2 .... because it shows that the coming of the Lord and our gathering unto Him in the day of CHRIST .... CANNOT HAPPEN BEFORE a falling away and that man of sin is revealed when he sits in the temple and proclaims himself to be God.
The odd thing is .... the Cunning Royal Jester does not preach what the CONTEXT says about the day of Christ! He does not teach that the church will be on Planet Earth during the 70th week of Daniel. He says the church will be ‘raptured’ off the earth more than 7 years PRIOR to the time Daniel’s 70th week begins. During half-time is when that man of sin will be revealed for the imposter he will be.
2 Thess 2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Since the Cunning Royal Jester says we will NOT be here for the day of the LORD .... but we WILL be here for the day of CHRIST .... (because he makes them SEPARATE DAYS, separated by 7+ years), then, I wonder, which day would he say is the day of our LORD JESUS CHRIST? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
1 Cor 1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of the LORD JESUS? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Cor 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of GOD? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
The Cunning Royal Jester’s doctrine of DIVISION is outrageous and wrong!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Then he mentioned the references of 2 Thess 2:2 and Phil 1:6, and said, “We ARE going to experience the day of Christ.”
Then he said, “It’s elementary, my dear Watson.”
I would suggest he read the CONTEXT of 2 Thess 2:2 .... because it shows that the coming of the Lord and our gathering unto Him in the day of CHRIST .... CANNOT HAPPEN BEFORE a falling away and that man of sin is revealed when he sits in the temple and proclaims himself to be God.
The odd thing is .... the Cunning Royal Jester does not preach what the CONTEXT says about the day of Christ! He does not teach that the church will be on Planet Earth during the 70th week of Daniel. He says the church will be ‘raptured’ off the earth more than 7 years PRIOR to the time Daniel’s 70th week begins. During half-time is when that man of sin will be revealed for the imposter he will be.
2 Thess 2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Since the Cunning Royal Jester says we will NOT be here for the day of the LORD .... but we WILL be here for the day of CHRIST .... (because he makes them SEPARATE DAYS, separated by 7+ years), then, I wonder, which day would he say is the day of our LORD JESUS CHRIST? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
1 Cor 1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of the LORD JESUS? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Cor 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of GOD? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
The Cunning Royal Jester’s doctrine of DIVISION is outrageous and wrong!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Friday, September 24, 2010
The 2nd is NOT the 3rd
The issue of Jesus coming back to earth from heaven flows throughout the scripture. There is no logical reason to DIVIDE “His (future) coming” into 2 SEPARATE future comings, and then, not count the first one in the DIVISION. But that’s what ‘mid-Acts-ers’ do who follow the Cunning Royal Jester, who has been teaching this regularly during his Sunday Evening Story-Time.
It is NOT right to ‘make-up’ another appearance (and call it a mystery, secret appearing) BEFORE the SECOND coming, and not count it:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
When the SCRIPTURE tells of Christ’s SECOND appearance .... then we should BELIEVE what GOD says (not what the Cunning Royal Jester says). It is the SECOND time He will appear, not the THIRD.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
It is NOT right to ‘make-up’ another appearance (and call it a mystery, secret appearing) BEFORE the SECOND coming, and not count it:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
When the SCRIPTURE tells of Christ’s SECOND appearance .... then we should BELIEVE what GOD says (not what the Cunning Royal Jester says). It is the SECOND time He will appear, not the THIRD.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Who Will Come .... on Who’s Day?
The Cunning Royal Jester continually makes a DIVISION between the day of Christ and the day of the Lord, saying that they are completely separate events that will happen more than 7 years apart. He did it again this past weekend, September 19, 2010, in his weekly Sunday Evening Story-Time.
He says that the day of Christ, which he teaches is “our gathering unto Him”, begins with what-he-calls “the pre-tribulation rapture”.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture?
The Cunning Royal Jester does NOT say what the SCRIPTURE says about the the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, our gathering together unto Him, and the day of Christ .... the TIMING of it:
2 Thess 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (What day? the day of Christ) shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Sunday night, September 19, 2010, the Cunning Royal Jester said, ‘Am I being clear enough with that? You and I are NOT going to experience the day of the LORD, but we ARE going to experience the day of CHRIST.’ According to the verses, he is wrong.
The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thess 2:1) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord:
1 Thess 4:15-18, 5:1-11 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thess 5:1 But of the times and the seasons (stay in the context .... the times and seasons of what? the times and seasons what he has been talking about, the times and seasons of the coming of the Lord, when the dead are raised and the alive are caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord and live together with Him), brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (also see 2 Pet 3:10)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them (2 Thess 1:7-10), as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day (what day? the day of the Lord) should overtake you as a thief. (Not because you have been 'raptured' more than 7 years earlier, but because God's wrath will be directed against His enemies, not against His saints - also see 2 Thess 1:7-10 and Rom 2:5-10)
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. (also see 1 Pet 4:7)
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep (these are the same people in verses 4:15-17), we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
The coming of the Lord (1 Thess 4:15) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (also 2 Thess 2:1, that we read at the beginning of this ‘Thought of the Day’):
1 Cor 1:7-8 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of the Lord:
2 Peter 3:9-10 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise (the promise of His coming, 2 Pet 3:4 in the context), as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The Cunning Royal Jester said, 'If you don't want the rapture to be before .... then you need to REDEFINE the day of the Lord.”
Actually, GOD defined the day of the Lord in the Bible. We've been reading about it. But I will humor the Jester anyway, so here goes:
The day of the Lord = the day of our Lord Jesus Christ = the day of Christ.
He says that the day of Christ, which he teaches is “our gathering unto Him”, begins with what-he-calls “the pre-tribulation rapture”.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture?
The Cunning Royal Jester does NOT say what the SCRIPTURE says about the the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, our gathering together unto Him, and the day of Christ .... the TIMING of it:
2 Thess 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (What day? the day of Christ) shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Sunday night, September 19, 2010, the Cunning Royal Jester said, ‘Am I being clear enough with that? You and I are NOT going to experience the day of the LORD, but we ARE going to experience the day of CHRIST.’ According to the verses, he is wrong.
The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thess 2:1) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord:
1 Thess 4:15-18, 5:1-11 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thess 5:1 But of the times and the seasons (stay in the context .... the times and seasons of what? the times and seasons what he has been talking about, the times and seasons of the coming of the Lord, when the dead are raised and the alive are caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord and live together with Him), brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (also see 2 Pet 3:10)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them (2 Thess 1:7-10), as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day (what day? the day of the Lord) should overtake you as a thief. (Not because you have been 'raptured' more than 7 years earlier, but because God's wrath will be directed against His enemies, not against His saints - also see 2 Thess 1:7-10 and Rom 2:5-10)
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. (also see 1 Pet 4:7)
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep (these are the same people in verses 4:15-17), we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
The coming of the Lord (1 Thess 4:15) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (also 2 Thess 2:1, that we read at the beginning of this ‘Thought of the Day’):
1 Cor 1:7-8 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of the Lord:
2 Peter 3:9-10 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise (the promise of His coming, 2 Pet 3:4 in the context), as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The Cunning Royal Jester said, 'If you don't want the rapture to be before .... then you need to REDEFINE the day of the Lord.”
Actually, GOD defined the day of the Lord in the Bible. We've been reading about it. But I will humor the Jester anyway, so here goes:
The day of the Lord = the day of our Lord Jesus Christ = the day of Christ.
The Jester is the one who needs to adjust his definition of the day of the Lord. He is the one who thinks there are 2 Jesus' .... he thinks the day of Christ is 7+ years before the day of the Lord.
Who will come on Who’s Day? The Lord Jesus Christ, Who is the Lord, Who is Christ .... will come on HIS day!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Sunday, September 19, 2010
DIVIDING Jesus Again .... How Embarrassing!
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on September 19, 2010, the IL ‘teaching elder’ gave us another outrageous DIVISION!
The Cunning Royal Jester specifically said,
"You and I are NOT going to experience the Day of the LORD ....
but we ARE going to experience the Day of CHRIST."
When the birthday of Jesus was announced to the shepherds, as they kept watch over their flock by night .... the angel of the Lord clearly identified JESUS as Christ the Lord:
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Peter proclaimed that ‘that SAME Jesus’ .... (which was the ‘EARTHLY Jesus’ .... that was crucified .... that the Cunning Royal Jester teaches was ‘another Jesus’) .... was BOTH LORD and CHRIST:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
PAUL, the very apostle ‘mid-Acts-ers’ claim to follow (but don’t), ALSO taught that CHRIST IS the LORD:
Rom 14:8-9 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Every week the Cunning Royal Jester looks more and more outrageous as he DIVIDES the Lord Jesus Christ. He claims to have ‘studied this stuff’ for over 40 years. He should be embarrassed!
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
The Cunning Royal Jester specifically said,
"You and I are NOT going to experience the Day of the LORD ....
but we ARE going to experience the Day of CHRIST."
When the birthday of Jesus was announced to the shepherds, as they kept watch over their flock by night .... the angel of the Lord clearly identified JESUS as Christ the Lord:
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Peter proclaimed that ‘that SAME Jesus’ .... (which was the ‘EARTHLY Jesus’ .... that was crucified .... that the Cunning Royal Jester teaches was ‘another Jesus’) .... was BOTH LORD and CHRIST:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
PAUL, the very apostle ‘mid-Acts-ers’ claim to follow (but don’t), ALSO taught that CHRIST IS the LORD:
Rom 14:8-9 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Every week the Cunning Royal Jester looks more and more outrageous as he DIVIDES the Lord Jesus Christ. He claims to have ‘studied this stuff’ for over 40 years. He should be embarrassed!
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Saturday, September 18, 2010
When a Shout is a Whisper
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ believe that ‘any moment’ Jesus will appear in the clouds, for a ‘mystery resurrection’ they call the ‘rapture’ .... several years before the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy begins .... for ONLY those saints that were saved through PAUL’s ministry. They think the rest of the world will be left behind to ‘wonder’ why these people are suddenly ‘missing’. They say that unbelievers will be completely unaware of the Lord’s coming .... even though it will be a 'NOISY event':
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
• with a shout,
• with the voice of the archangel,
• and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on June 27, 2010, with the IL teaching elder, he made a repeated point that the (so-called) ‘rapture’ will be a NOISY event. He said, "There’s this VOICE of a trumpet that God will sound. You’re going to have a shout, a voice coming from the archangel Michael, and then the trump of God - you’re going to have God’s voice. So it’s going to be a NOISY event, with 3 unique sounds."
So how in the world does the Cunning Royal Jester think that NOBODY else in the world, except the ‘few’ that trusted Christ through PAUL’s writings, will HEAR such loud NOISES?
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ DIVIDE-OUT everything that is not written by Paul, and they think the verse is talking about ANOTHER coming of the Lord .... years AFTER the (so-called) ‘secret rapture coming’.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ teach that just the folks who have believed ‘Jesus died for their sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day’ THROUGH PAUL’s epistles .... will be the only ones that to see Him or to hear all this noise.
According to his theology, a ‘SHOUT’ would have the effect of a ‘WHISPER’.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
• with a shout,
• with the voice of the archangel,
• and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on June 27, 2010, with the IL teaching elder, he made a repeated point that the (so-called) ‘rapture’ will be a NOISY event. He said, "There’s this VOICE of a trumpet that God will sound. You’re going to have a shout, a voice coming from the archangel Michael, and then the trump of God - you’re going to have God’s voice. So it’s going to be a NOISY event, with 3 unique sounds."
So how in the world does the Cunning Royal Jester think that NOBODY else in the world, except the ‘few’ that trusted Christ through PAUL’s writings, will HEAR such loud NOISES?
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ DIVIDE-OUT everything that is not written by Paul, and they think the verse is talking about ANOTHER coming of the Lord .... years AFTER the (so-called) ‘secret rapture coming’.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ teach that just the folks who have believed ‘Jesus died for their sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day’ THROUGH PAUL’s epistles .... will be the only ones that to see Him or to hear all this noise.
According to his theology, a ‘SHOUT’ would have the effect of a ‘WHISPER’.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Waiting for the Casting?
When Israel sees the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, they will have to flee to the mountains for God’s protection (Matt 24:15-16, Mark 13:14). This will happen in the middle of the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy. Paul also prophesied of this same time (2 Thess 2:3-4), as did John in the Revelation:
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (1,260 days = 43 months = 3-1/2 years .... the half-way point of the full 7 years)
Notice that the context places the casting out of the Devil and his angels from heaven, also in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week:
Rev 12:7-9 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Satan will persecute Israel as she flies to the wilderness for provision for a time, and times, and half a time (Rev 12:13-14).
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ wrongly teach such nonsense that means that 'raptured' saints (who-they-teach are ONLY those saved by what-they-call "Paul's UNIQUE gospel") will be WAITING for the CASTING out of the Devil and his angels in ‘mid-week’ .... before they can FILL the POSITIONS they were assigned YEARS earlier at the judgment.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (1,260 days = 43 months = 3-1/2 years .... the half-way point of the full 7 years)
Notice that the context places the casting out of the Devil and his angels from heaven, also in the middle of Daniel’s 70th week:
Rev 12:7-9 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Satan will persecute Israel as she flies to the wilderness for provision for a time, and times, and half a time (Rev 12:13-14).
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ wrongly teach such nonsense that means that 'raptured' saints (who-they-teach are ONLY those saved by what-they-call "Paul's UNIQUE gospel") will be WAITING for the CASTING out of the Devil and his angels in ‘mid-week’ .... before they can FILL the POSITIONS they were assigned YEARS earlier at the judgment.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Friday, September 17, 2010
Wanted Dead or Alive?
I listened to a 'mid-Acts' preacher say, "If the quick and the dead are two different things .... and they are .... then so are "His appearing (the rapture) and His kingdom (the second coming)." That is NOT how the verse reads though:
2 Tim 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Well, now, with that illogical 'mid-Acts' reasoning, I wonder .... Would he group the quick and the dead together, and have them judged at His appearing .... and then 'nothing' happen at His kingdom? Why even mention His kingdom, if 'nothing' in the verse has anything to do with it, since he believes it is an entirely separate event that will occur 7+ years later? Or would he group the 1st thing of the 1st section, with the 1st thing of the 2nd section .... and then group the 2nd thing of the 1st section, with the 2nd thing of the 2nd section? So then, the quick would be judged at His appearing .... and the dead would be judged at His kingdom? Or would he use BOTH things in the 1st section with EACH of the things in the 2nd section? So then, the quick and the dead will both be judged at His appearing .... and then quick and the dead will both be judged at His kingdom? This question presents two problems. Here are the two scenarios: If the quick and the dead will both be judged at His appearing .... will the SAME quick and the dead be judged AGAIN at His kingdom? ---- OR ---- If the quick and the dead will both be judged at His appearing .... will it be a DIFFERENT group of the quick and the dead judged at His kingdom?
I understand that the "quick" are those that are alive, and the dead are obviously those who have died. I also understand that 'when' Christ appears .... He will set up His kingdom. That's more than I can say for the preacher I heard. He is a typical 'mid-Acts-er' who divides nearly everything .... making 'when' He appears 7+ years earlier, than 'when' He comes and sets up His kingdom.
1 Tim 6:14-15 That thou keep this commandment without spot (Eph 5:27, 2 Pet 3:14), unrebukeable (the same Greek word is also translated "blameless"), until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
'When' He appears is 'when' He will show Himself as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, as Rev 17:14, 19:16.
1 Cor 15:23-24 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
'When' He comes .... is 'when' He will 'appear' .... and 'when' He will 'judge' .... and 'when' He will set up His kingdom .... at the end.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
2 Tim 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Well, now, with that illogical 'mid-Acts' reasoning, I wonder .... Would he group the quick and the dead together, and have them judged at His appearing .... and then 'nothing' happen at His kingdom? Why even mention His kingdom, if 'nothing' in the verse has anything to do with it, since he believes it is an entirely separate event that will occur 7+ years later? Or would he group the 1st thing of the 1st section, with the 1st thing of the 2nd section .... and then group the 2nd thing of the 1st section, with the 2nd thing of the 2nd section? So then, the quick would be judged at His appearing .... and the dead would be judged at His kingdom? Or would he use BOTH things in the 1st section with EACH of the things in the 2nd section? So then, the quick and the dead will both be judged at His appearing .... and then quick and the dead will both be judged at His kingdom? This question presents two problems. Here are the two scenarios: If the quick and the dead will both be judged at His appearing .... will the SAME quick and the dead be judged AGAIN at His kingdom? ---- OR ---- If the quick and the dead will both be judged at His appearing .... will it be a DIFFERENT group of the quick and the dead judged at His kingdom?
I understand that the "quick" are those that are alive, and the dead are obviously those who have died. I also understand that 'when' Christ appears .... He will set up His kingdom. That's more than I can say for the preacher I heard. He is a typical 'mid-Acts-er' who divides nearly everything .... making 'when' He appears 7+ years earlier, than 'when' He comes and sets up His kingdom.
1 Tim 6:14-15 That thou keep this commandment without spot (Eph 5:27, 2 Pet 3:14), unrebukeable (the same Greek word is also translated "blameless"), until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
'When' He appears is 'when' He will show Himself as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, as Rev 17:14, 19:16.
1 Cor 15:23-24 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
'When' He comes .... is 'when' He will 'appear' .... and 'when' He will 'judge' .... and 'when' He will set up His kingdom .... at the end.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Thursday, September 16, 2010
Another Admission .... Tooting His Own Horn
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on September 12, 2010, the IL ‘teaching elder’ gave us one more look at his superb estimation of himself. He told a personal story about the death of his father, and said that an elderly man came up to him (I think, at the funeral home), and quoted a passage in the Bible to bring hope and comfort in his time of great sorrow and loss. He said he thought to himself, ‘I forgot more in that passage than he knows.’ What a proud attitude! I hope that toot is ‘the last trump’ we hear from him!
Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Tuesday, September 14, 2010
In Each Other's Personal Presence .... But Not So, In Christ's?
On September 12, 2010, during Sunday Evening Story-Time, the IL teaching elder emphasized again about the REUNION of the saints in the air. He said that is our HOPE, our confident expectation. He repeated, as he has done for several weeks, that Paul was comforting the brethren about the loss of their dead loves ones. A main point was that the saints will be forever reunited with other saints in the body of Christ who have died.
1 Thess 4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that the ‘comfort factor’ is the happy reunion in the sky ‘with’ the saints in the body of Christ .... that they will be together forever, up in the heavenly places, as they reign with Christ.
That teaching has problems. If the body of Christ saints reign and stay in the heavenly places for eternity .... and Jesus Christ reigns forever in the kingdom on earth .... then they will not REALLY be WITH Him.
So the Cunning Royal Jester turns a FLIP and explains that to be ‘with’ the Lord .... does NOT mean to be in ‘His personal presence’ .... but it means, like, in spirit, not in person .... like, "Are you ‘with’ me?" "Yeah, I’m ‘with’ you."
That teaching also has problems. The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that the alive saints in the body of Christ will be reunited ‘with’ the dead saints in the body of Christ at the mystery-secret-resurrection-rapture .... when they are "caught up together ‘WITH’ them in the clouds" .... and that they will be together ‘with’ each other forever, as they reign in the heavenly places ‘with’ each other.
1 Thess 4:17-a "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them (the dead in Christ) in the clouds,"
The Cunning Royal Jester makes the alive and the dead body-of-Christ-saints really be ‘with’ each other .... meaning in each other’s personal presence.
But then the Cunning Royal Jester CHANGES the meaning of ‘with’ when he applies it to the saints being ‘with’ Christ. He says to be ‘with’ Christ does NOT mean to be ‘with Him in His personal presence’.
So, the Cunning Royal Jester has the saints really being WITH EACH OTHER .... but they will not really be WITH THE LORD, the same way as they are WITH each other .... even though the VERSE says .... "SO SHALL WE EVER BE":
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Cunning Royal Jester earned his name. Don’t let him FOOL you!
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
1 Thess 4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that the ‘comfort factor’ is the happy reunion in the sky ‘with’ the saints in the body of Christ .... that they will be together forever, up in the heavenly places, as they reign with Christ.
That teaching has problems. If the body of Christ saints reign and stay in the heavenly places for eternity .... and Jesus Christ reigns forever in the kingdom on earth .... then they will not REALLY be WITH Him.
So the Cunning Royal Jester turns a FLIP and explains that to be ‘with’ the Lord .... does NOT mean to be in ‘His personal presence’ .... but it means, like, in spirit, not in person .... like, "Are you ‘with’ me?" "Yeah, I’m ‘with’ you."
That teaching also has problems. The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that the alive saints in the body of Christ will be reunited ‘with’ the dead saints in the body of Christ at the mystery-secret-resurrection-rapture .... when they are "caught up together ‘WITH’ them in the clouds" .... and that they will be together ‘with’ each other forever, as they reign in the heavenly places ‘with’ each other.
1 Thess 4:17-a "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them (the dead in Christ) in the clouds,"
The Cunning Royal Jester makes the alive and the dead body-of-Christ-saints really be ‘with’ each other .... meaning in each other’s personal presence.
But then the Cunning Royal Jester CHANGES the meaning of ‘with’ when he applies it to the saints being ‘with’ Christ. He says to be ‘with’ Christ does NOT mean to be ‘with Him in His personal presence’.
So, the Cunning Royal Jester has the saints really being WITH EACH OTHER .... but they will not really be WITH THE LORD, the same way as they are WITH each other .... even though the VERSE says .... "SO SHALL WE EVER BE":
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Cunning Royal Jester earned his name. Don’t let him FOOL you!
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Sunday, September 12, 2010
400 Years and Sliding
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on September 12, 2010, with the IL teaching elder, he reminded everyone again about the year long ‘celebration’ of the 400th Year Anniversary of the KJV Bible. The various conferences, in which he will participate throughout the year, have joined the theme to give a concentrated focus on the authority of the KJV. The IL teaching elder announced their combined effort for the coming year at the IL conference this past July. They plan to culminate in IL next year in July.
In my humble opinion, it looks like the ‘mid-Acts’ PASTORS (as they refer to themselves and each other) are setting themselves up for EMBARRASSMENT with all their KJV hype, while at the same time, REFUSING the KJV title of the office (bishop) that most of them occupy in their local churches.
They boldly teach their congregations that as members of the ‘body of Christ’, they are NOT sheep; but that the nation Israel (more specifically the ‘Little Flock’) was ALWAYS God’s sheep. Then they call themselves (the leaders of the assemblies) PASTORS, which are SHEPHERDS over SHEEP! How disfunctional is that?!
When push came to shove over a year ago in TN, after he was repeatedly ‘beseeched’ from the pulpit, we have him on record publically admitting that ‘bishop’ is ‘technically correct’. However, sometime afterward he was recorded preaching that ‘bishop’, ‘pastor’, and ‘elder’ are all interchangable. That was the same message, when he was in Eph 4:11, teaching that the gifts were no longer ‘supernaturally-given’, he said that ‘we know the ‘work’ of each of them is functioning today. All the gifts are still in operation.’ Then he asked the question, ‘You want to know who the apostles and prophets are today?’ Then he answered, ‘I’ll tell you who the apostles and prophets are today .... they are your Bible!’ When I heard him say that I could have fallen out of my chair and rolled in the floor! We had to back-up the tape and listen to that part again, just to make sure we had not misunderstood his words.
At the IL July conference a year ago, the Cunning Royal Jester carefully avoided introducing the preachers as ‘Pastor’ ‘So-and-So’ (as he had always done for many years before). Instead, he called every one of them to the pulpit as ‘Brother’ ‘Whoever’.
Also, his church bulletin had been changed sometime before that conference because someone gave me a copy of both the old one and the new one. There was a total of five men’s names, with their positions listed after each of their names. The first two had both been shown as ‘Pastor’; they were changed to ‘Elder’. Then they had one ‘Elder’ which remained the same. Then they had two deacons that still retained their office as ‘Deacon’. They intentionally disregard 'bishop' and embrace 'deacon'.
Question #1) Why BOTHER to go to the trouble of changing the church bulletin from ‘Pastor’ to ‘Elder’ .... if ‘Pastor’ was not wrong?
Question #2) Is there no one serving the Lord in the office of ‘Bishop’ at that church? Evidently not! What a tragedy! PAUL, the apostle of the Gentiles they claim to follow (but really don’t follow), writing by inspiration of God, called being a ‘bishop’ .... ‘a good work’!
1 Tim 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop,
he desireth a good work.
The Cunning Royal Jester has straddled the fence on this issue. Given he is a primary promoter of the ‘400 Year Celebration of the KJV’ conference theme, he will likely do some more SLIDING in this ‘bishop/pastor’ area, because EVERY TIME the KJV uses the word ‘bishop’ .... The LIVING BIBLE writes the word ‘pastor’ instead. The Jester and his Jokers all claim the final authority of the KJV, while identifying themselves and each other’s office with The LIVING BIBLE’s term ‘pastor’. When I was among them, I repeatedly called their attention to it, but they dug in their heels instead of wiping the egg off their faces, correcting their vocabulary, and moving on with FAITHFULNESS to the KJV.
Prov 20:6 Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness:
but a faithful man who can find?
The Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers do not treat the KJV word ‘dispensation’ like a hot potato the way they do ‘bishop’. They ADVERTISE and DISPLAY the KJV word ‘dispensation’ often, both verbally and in print. They would never allow The LIVING BIBLE’s substitution of ‘this sacred trust’ or ‘when the time is ripe’ or ‘this special work’ or ‘his secret plan’ .... in preference over the KJV’s ‘dispensation’. What hypocrisy! The Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers pick and choose. They do not switch and call the ‘cross’ .... a ‘tree’ instead. They refuse the KJV’s ‘bishop’ because they say they do not want to be affiliated with ‘certain religious organizations’ for using the same terminology. Another of their excuses for not wanting to be called ‘bishops’ was because of ‘demographics’.
I pay close attention, and I have noticed that the Cunning Royal Jester is doing quite a bit of SLIDING lately on several issues, including this one. So, JOKERS that follow him, beware! He is a cunning royal jester, and he can SLIDE down on both sides of an issue quicker than you can tell ‘a funny’ at the beginning of your sermon!
Tonight, he used an example of ‘BISHOPS’ not being ‘given to wine’ compared to ‘DEACONS’ not ‘given to MUCH wine’. That was a SLIDER! He slid the KJV word ‘bishop’ into his story-telling! Now, if he ever needs to dodge an accusation, he can ‘honestly’ say that he has ‘used the word bishop’ while preaching. He certainly is a Cunning Royal Jester.
1 Cor 4:1-2 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards (same Greek root word as ‘dispensation’ uses) of the mysteries (same Greek word as translated 'mystery' singular) of God.
2 Moreover it is required in stewards (like ‘dispensers’), that a man be found faithful.
What a farce to celebrate 400 years of the KJV,
when the Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers are NOT faithful to it!
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
In my humble opinion, it looks like the ‘mid-Acts’ PASTORS (as they refer to themselves and each other) are setting themselves up for EMBARRASSMENT with all their KJV hype, while at the same time, REFUSING the KJV title of the office (bishop) that most of them occupy in their local churches.
They boldly teach their congregations that as members of the ‘body of Christ’, they are NOT sheep; but that the nation Israel (more specifically the ‘Little Flock’) was ALWAYS God’s sheep. Then they call themselves (the leaders of the assemblies) PASTORS, which are SHEPHERDS over SHEEP! How disfunctional is that?!
When push came to shove over a year ago in TN, after he was repeatedly ‘beseeched’ from the pulpit, we have him on record publically admitting that ‘bishop’ is ‘technically correct’. However, sometime afterward he was recorded preaching that ‘bishop’, ‘pastor’, and ‘elder’ are all interchangable. That was the same message, when he was in Eph 4:11, teaching that the gifts were no longer ‘supernaturally-given’, he said that ‘we know the ‘work’ of each of them is functioning today. All the gifts are still in operation.’ Then he asked the question, ‘You want to know who the apostles and prophets are today?’ Then he answered, ‘I’ll tell you who the apostles and prophets are today .... they are your Bible!’ When I heard him say that I could have fallen out of my chair and rolled in the floor! We had to back-up the tape and listen to that part again, just to make sure we had not misunderstood his words.
At the IL July conference a year ago, the Cunning Royal Jester carefully avoided introducing the preachers as ‘Pastor’ ‘So-and-So’ (as he had always done for many years before). Instead, he called every one of them to the pulpit as ‘Brother’ ‘Whoever’.
Also, his church bulletin had been changed sometime before that conference because someone gave me a copy of both the old one and the new one. There was a total of five men’s names, with their positions listed after each of their names. The first two had both been shown as ‘Pastor’; they were changed to ‘Elder’. Then they had one ‘Elder’ which remained the same. Then they had two deacons that still retained their office as ‘Deacon’. They intentionally disregard 'bishop' and embrace 'deacon'.
Question #1) Why BOTHER to go to the trouble of changing the church bulletin from ‘Pastor’ to ‘Elder’ .... if ‘Pastor’ was not wrong?
Question #2) Is there no one serving the Lord in the office of ‘Bishop’ at that church? Evidently not! What a tragedy! PAUL, the apostle of the Gentiles they claim to follow (but really don’t follow), writing by inspiration of God, called being a ‘bishop’ .... ‘a good work’!
1 Tim 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop,
he desireth a good work.
The Cunning Royal Jester has straddled the fence on this issue. Given he is a primary promoter of the ‘400 Year Celebration of the KJV’ conference theme, he will likely do some more SLIDING in this ‘bishop/pastor’ area, because EVERY TIME the KJV uses the word ‘bishop’ .... The LIVING BIBLE writes the word ‘pastor’ instead. The Jester and his Jokers all claim the final authority of the KJV, while identifying themselves and each other’s office with The LIVING BIBLE’s term ‘pastor’. When I was among them, I repeatedly called their attention to it, but they dug in their heels instead of wiping the egg off their faces, correcting their vocabulary, and moving on with FAITHFULNESS to the KJV.
Prov 20:6 Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness:
but a faithful man who can find?
The Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers do not treat the KJV word ‘dispensation’ like a hot potato the way they do ‘bishop’. They ADVERTISE and DISPLAY the KJV word ‘dispensation’ often, both verbally and in print. They would never allow The LIVING BIBLE’s substitution of ‘this sacred trust’ or ‘when the time is ripe’ or ‘this special work’ or ‘his secret plan’ .... in preference over the KJV’s ‘dispensation’. What hypocrisy! The Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers pick and choose. They do not switch and call the ‘cross’ .... a ‘tree’ instead. They refuse the KJV’s ‘bishop’ because they say they do not want to be affiliated with ‘certain religious organizations’ for using the same terminology. Another of their excuses for not wanting to be called ‘bishops’ was because of ‘demographics’.
I pay close attention, and I have noticed that the Cunning Royal Jester is doing quite a bit of SLIDING lately on several issues, including this one. So, JOKERS that follow him, beware! He is a cunning royal jester, and he can SLIDE down on both sides of an issue quicker than you can tell ‘a funny’ at the beginning of your sermon!
Tonight, he used an example of ‘BISHOPS’ not being ‘given to wine’ compared to ‘DEACONS’ not ‘given to MUCH wine’. That was a SLIDER! He slid the KJV word ‘bishop’ into his story-telling! Now, if he ever needs to dodge an accusation, he can ‘honestly’ say that he has ‘used the word bishop’ while preaching. He certainly is a Cunning Royal Jester.
1 Cor 4:1-2 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards (same Greek root word as ‘dispensation’ uses) of the mysteries (same Greek word as translated 'mystery' singular) of God.
2 Moreover it is required in stewards (like ‘dispensers’), that a man be found faithful.
What a farce to celebrate 400 years of the KJV,
when the Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers are NOT faithful to it!
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Friday, September 10, 2010
The Winds of Change Are Blowing .... Jesus is OUR KING!
During Sunday Evening Story-Time, on September 5, 2010, the IL teaching elder was talking about inheritance and getting out from under the authority of Satan .... when, referring to Jesus, he said the phrase, "to OUR KING". I was absolutely shocked! In nearly 30 years of listening to the Cunning Royal Jester -- and his Jokers, too -- preach .... I NEVER heard him -- or any of them -- EVER say ANYTHING about Jesus being OUR KING! To my knowledge, not during any conferences or meetings; not on any recorded old 8-track tapes, cassettes, MP3’s, CD’s, DVD’s, or live webcasts; not in printed literature, tracts, or books .... no where .... no time .... was Jesus called OUR KING. I remember one time that a lady sang a song at a conference about Jesus being King and people rolled their eyes with facial expressions to indicate she just didn’t know ‘right-division’ yet! She wasn’t ‘in the know’ like WE were! Someone needed to straighten her out and teach her the scriptures!
To give credit where credit is due, ‘mid-Acts-ers’ do acknowledge Jesus is King -- but the problem is, that they see Him as only as King OF THE JEWS. They know He was born KING OF THE JEWS (Matt 2:2). They know He was crucified as KING OF THE JEWS (Matt 27:37, John 19:19). But ‘mid-Acts-ers’ believe the ‘earthly’ Jesus .... was ‘another Jesus’ .... a ‘different’ Jesus from Who-they-call the ‘risen, glorified Lord’ that appeared to Saul/Paul on the road to Damascus. Therefore, they do not accept or believe Jesus as their King, thinking that Jesus was "operating in Israel’s program" then.
Since I am no longer a ‘mid-Acts-er’ and I do not follow the Cunning Royal Jester’s stories anymore .... I have been presenting the fact that Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles (Rom 11:13) which ‘mid-Acts-ers’ CLAIM to follow (but don’t), by inspiration of God, TWICE named Jesus as KING .... once, obviously, Who He is NOW:
1 Tim 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
.... and again, Who He ‘IS’ now, and Who He will be shown to be at His appearing .... namely, the KING of kings:
1 Tim 6:14-15 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
How could anyone read that verse .... and then read this passage .... and still think that PAUL taught a SECRET, MYSTERY APPEARING of King Jesus that was a DIFFERENT APPEARING than the rest of the prophets wrote of? The Cunning Royal Jester has blown smoke:
Rev 19:11-16 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
John wrote of the revelation (the appearing) of Jesus Christ, as did Paul .... when He appears as King of kings .... one and the same coming!
Just for the record, I have been teaching for over a year now, that JESUS IS KING. The Cunning Royal Jester may be trying to make a change (by calling Jesus our King) without anyone drawing attention to it, so he can say he’s taught that before. Yes, the winds of change are blowing .... the Cunning Royal Jester called Jesus "our King". I’m pointing it out for you to notice, so you will not be blown away if he claims he preached it all along, when he didn’t.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
To give credit where credit is due, ‘mid-Acts-ers’ do acknowledge Jesus is King -- but the problem is, that they see Him as only as King OF THE JEWS. They know He was born KING OF THE JEWS (Matt 2:2). They know He was crucified as KING OF THE JEWS (Matt 27:37, John 19:19). But ‘mid-Acts-ers’ believe the ‘earthly’ Jesus .... was ‘another Jesus’ .... a ‘different’ Jesus from Who-they-call the ‘risen, glorified Lord’ that appeared to Saul/Paul on the road to Damascus. Therefore, they do not accept or believe Jesus as their King, thinking that Jesus was "operating in Israel’s program" then.
Since I am no longer a ‘mid-Acts-er’ and I do not follow the Cunning Royal Jester’s stories anymore .... I have been presenting the fact that Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles (Rom 11:13) which ‘mid-Acts-ers’ CLAIM to follow (but don’t), by inspiration of God, TWICE named Jesus as KING .... once, obviously, Who He is NOW:
1 Tim 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
.... and again, Who He ‘IS’ now, and Who He will be shown to be at His appearing .... namely, the KING of kings:
1 Tim 6:14-15 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
How could anyone read that verse .... and then read this passage .... and still think that PAUL taught a SECRET, MYSTERY APPEARING of King Jesus that was a DIFFERENT APPEARING than the rest of the prophets wrote of? The Cunning Royal Jester has blown smoke:
Rev 19:11-16 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
John wrote of the revelation (the appearing) of Jesus Christ, as did Paul .... when He appears as King of kings .... one and the same coming!
Just for the record, I have been teaching for over a year now, that JESUS IS KING. The Cunning Royal Jester may be trying to make a change (by calling Jesus our King) without anyone drawing attention to it, so he can say he’s taught that before. Yes, the winds of change are blowing .... the Cunning Royal Jester called Jesus "our King". I’m pointing it out for you to notice, so you will not be blown away if he claims he preached it all along, when he didn’t.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Wednesday, September 8, 2010
Thinking Like He Thinks?
During September 5, 2010, Sunday Evening Story-Time with the IL teaching elder .... he said, ‘You thinking like I’m thinking? You know how to do that!’ Whether intentional or not, the Cunning Royal Jester just slipped us a glimpse that he is accustomed to folks unquestionably following his teaching, trusting his judgment, and accepting his paradigm. He is aware that people give him their full confidence, so he can embellish his stories .... without fear of being embarrassed. He said of people who disagree with his pre-tribulation rapture doctrine in 1 Cor 15:51, that they are having a ‘hallucination, when the wish is father to the thought’ (7-25-10).
Rom 12:16-a Be of the same mind one toward another.
The Cunning Royal Jester takes pot-shots at people, calling them ‘Bible-thump-heads’ and ‘block-heads inexperienced at reading the Bible’ (8-4-10), ‘bums at the rescue mission’ and calling the Lord ‘the Big Cheese’ (8-22-10). He called some names and said they had great music, but they didn’t know what they were talking about (9-1-10).
Rom 12:16-b Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate.
The Cunning Royal Jester said that without his wife he could go to ‘heretic churches’ that claimed to be ‘Spirit-filled’. He mocked people who used Greek, saying they can’t recite the Greek alphabet, but think they can teach Greek (9-5-10). But he reads the phone book and the dictionary and 5 books at one time.
Rom 12:16-c Be not wise in your own conceits.
The Cunning Royal Jester has certainly earned his own title by making fun of saints who have a different understanding than he has .... and his Jokers laugh right along. I heard one of them preach from the pulpit that ‘other’ churches were ‘whorehouses’ and their preachers, ‘altar pimps’.
1 Cor 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
It seems the Cunning Royal Jester has a insatiable habit of putting others down and lifting himself up. I don’t ‘think like he thinks’ anymore!
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Rom 12:16-a Be of the same mind one toward another.
The Cunning Royal Jester takes pot-shots at people, calling them ‘Bible-thump-heads’ and ‘block-heads inexperienced at reading the Bible’ (8-4-10), ‘bums at the rescue mission’ and calling the Lord ‘the Big Cheese’ (8-22-10). He called some names and said they had great music, but they didn’t know what they were talking about (9-1-10).
Rom 12:16-b Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate.
The Cunning Royal Jester said that without his wife he could go to ‘heretic churches’ that claimed to be ‘Spirit-filled’. He mocked people who used Greek, saying they can’t recite the Greek alphabet, but think they can teach Greek (9-5-10). But he reads the phone book and the dictionary and 5 books at one time.
Rom 12:16-c Be not wise in your own conceits.
The Cunning Royal Jester has certainly earned his own title by making fun of saints who have a different understanding than he has .... and his Jokers laugh right along. I heard one of them preach from the pulpit that ‘other’ churches were ‘whorehouses’ and their preachers, ‘altar pimps’.
1 Cor 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
It seems the Cunning Royal Jester has a insatiable habit of putting others down and lifting himself up. I don’t ‘think like he thinks’ anymore!
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Monday, September 6, 2010
The World of Angels?
During September 5, 2010, Sunday Evening Story-Time with the teaching elder .... he assigned the meaning of ‘which’ world the saints will judge. He said, ‘The saints will judge the world. What world are they going to judge? The angelic world .... up here in the heavens. The saints will judge angels.'
1 Cor 6:1-8 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?
and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
Staying in the context of saints who were taking each other to civil court rather than settling matter between themselves in the church, and honestly using your OWN brain .... do YOU think that when verse 2 says the saints will judge the world .... that it means the angelic world? I don’t. But that is what the Cunning Royal Jester said it meant. It looks to me like he makes false assignments.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
1 Cor 6:1-8 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?
and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
Staying in the context of saints who were taking each other to civil court rather than settling matter between themselves in the church, and honestly using your OWN brain .... do YOU think that when verse 2 says the saints will judge the world .... that it means the angelic world? I don’t. But that is what the Cunning Royal Jester said it meant. It looks to me like he makes false assignments.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Physical Proximity (Nearness)?
On September 5, 2010, during Sunday Evening Story-Time, the Cunning Royal Jester repeatedly said that 1 Thess 4:17 (when we meet the Lord in the air, to ever be with Him) was ‘obviously NOT talking about PHYSICAL PROXIMITY’ (nearness).
Question: Well .... why not?
Answer: Because HE said it wasn’t.
1 Thess 4:14-17 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with [sun] him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with [en] a shout,
with [en] the voice of the archangel,
and with [en] the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
with [sun] them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air:
and so shall we ever be with [sun] the Lord.
I don’t want to start a Greek war, especially since I am one of those who can’t even recite the Greek alphabet (that the Cunning Royal Jester mocked). But since I got away from him, I have learned and I am able to study the translation and meaning of Greek words.
The Cunning Royal Jester, with HIS vast, ‘unquestionable’ Greek knowledge, stated that there are 15 different Greek words that are translated ‘with’. OK. Then he mentioned 3 of them. He said,
[meta] means ‘physical proximity’,
[sun] means union, agreement .... like fellow, joint, and oneness,
and [en] means -- (He spoke so fast, I didn’t write this one down, but when I looked it up, it is written 2,800 times, and translated ‘in’ 1,902 of them and ‘with’ 140 times).
When I researched the Greek word [meta] .... using the Cunning Royal Jester’s ‘physical proximity’ meaning .... I found several verses where that meaning did not fit the context. Thus, for HIM to assign ‘physical proximity’ to the Greek word [meta] .... and thereby, EXCLUDE us being NEAR the Lord for ever (since [meta] is not used in 1 Thess 4:17) .... is his condescending way of intimidating people into trusting what HE says. I don’t fall for that scam anymore.
He has to eliminate ‘physical proximity’ from the way we will ‘ever be with the Lord’ .... because he teaches that who-he-identifies-as ‘the body of Christ’ (Paul’s converts only) will stay in heaven eternally .... while Jesus Christ and God the Father will be living on the new earth forever in the new Jerusalem (which PAUL, by inspiration of God, said is the mother of us all in Gal 4:26).
The Cunning Royal Jester spoke with a forked tongue, because he taught that the alive saints will have a great REUNION with the dead saints .... ‘WITH’ [sun] them in the clouds .... obviously IN their ‘physical proximity’ --- but then he CHANGED the use of the same Greek word [sun] about us ever being ‘WITH’ [sun] the Lord, stating that it was NOT talking about our ‘physical proximity’ with the Lord. The Cunning Royal Jester made the same word [sun] (‘with’) .... be different .... in the same verse! What a cunning royal jester he is!
Naturally reading the verse (1 Thess 4:17), when we "meet the Lord in the air" .... we will be in His ‘physical proximity’ .... near Him. ".... and so shall we ever be with the Lord" is in the same manner. I understand it like, ‘in the same way we meet Him, we will always be with Him’. We will be near Him when we meet Him, and we will be near Him when we are ever with Him. THEREFORE, when HE comes to earth to set up His kingdom .... WE will come to earth WITH Him. No joke! (But the Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers are planning to stay in heaven. Fine with me! I wish they would, but I don’t want them to deceive others with their folly.)
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Question: Well .... why not?
Answer: Because HE said it wasn’t.
1 Thess 4:14-17 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with [sun] him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
with [en] a shout,
with [en] the voice of the archangel,
and with [en] the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together
with [sun] them in the clouds,
to meet the Lord in the air:
and so shall we ever be with [sun] the Lord.
I don’t want to start a Greek war, especially since I am one of those who can’t even recite the Greek alphabet (that the Cunning Royal Jester mocked). But since I got away from him, I have learned and I am able to study the translation and meaning of Greek words.
The Cunning Royal Jester, with HIS vast, ‘unquestionable’ Greek knowledge, stated that there are 15 different Greek words that are translated ‘with’. OK. Then he mentioned 3 of them. He said,
[meta] means ‘physical proximity’,
[sun] means union, agreement .... like fellow, joint, and oneness,
and [en] means -- (He spoke so fast, I didn’t write this one down, but when I looked it up, it is written 2,800 times, and translated ‘in’ 1,902 of them and ‘with’ 140 times).
When I researched the Greek word [meta] .... using the Cunning Royal Jester’s ‘physical proximity’ meaning .... I found several verses where that meaning did not fit the context. Thus, for HIM to assign ‘physical proximity’ to the Greek word [meta] .... and thereby, EXCLUDE us being NEAR the Lord for ever (since [meta] is not used in 1 Thess 4:17) .... is his condescending way of intimidating people into trusting what HE says. I don’t fall for that scam anymore.
He has to eliminate ‘physical proximity’ from the way we will ‘ever be with the Lord’ .... because he teaches that who-he-identifies-as ‘the body of Christ’ (Paul’s converts only) will stay in heaven eternally .... while Jesus Christ and God the Father will be living on the new earth forever in the new Jerusalem (which PAUL, by inspiration of God, said is the mother of us all in Gal 4:26).
The Cunning Royal Jester spoke with a forked tongue, because he taught that the alive saints will have a great REUNION with the dead saints .... ‘WITH’ [sun] them in the clouds .... obviously IN their ‘physical proximity’ --- but then he CHANGED the use of the same Greek word [sun] about us ever being ‘WITH’ [sun] the Lord, stating that it was NOT talking about our ‘physical proximity’ with the Lord. The Cunning Royal Jester made the same word [sun] (‘with’) .... be different .... in the same verse! What a cunning royal jester he is!
Naturally reading the verse (1 Thess 4:17), when we "meet the Lord in the air" .... we will be in His ‘physical proximity’ .... near Him. ".... and so shall we ever be with the Lord" is in the same manner. I understand it like, ‘in the same way we meet Him, we will always be with Him’. We will be near Him when we meet Him, and we will be near Him when we are ever with Him. THEREFORE, when HE comes to earth to set up His kingdom .... WE will come to earth WITH Him. No joke! (But the Cunning Royal Jester and his Jokers are planning to stay in heaven. Fine with me! I wish they would, but I don’t want them to deceive others with their folly.)
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Saturday, September 4, 2010
One and the Same
I have often heard the Cunning Royal Jester say, ‘Things that are different can’t be the same’.
Well, here’s ‘one’ for you, ‘Things that are the same are not different’.
When GOD says ‘ONE’ in the scripture .... then, we ought to accept ONE:
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
It is clear from the verse that Paul preached ‘the one and the same’ faith that he was persecuting in times past:
Gal 1:22-23 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
In ‘the words of Pauline’ (What?) .... asking a Joker’s song, "Why do you divide?"
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Well, here’s ‘one’ for you, ‘Things that are the same are not different’.
When GOD says ‘ONE’ in the scripture .... then, we ought to accept ONE:
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
It is clear from the verse that Paul preached ‘the one and the same’ faith that he was persecuting in times past:
Gal 1:22-23 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:
23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed.
In ‘the words of Pauline’ (What?) .... asking a Joker’s song, "Why do you divide?"
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Thursday, September 2, 2010
Count Me Out
On August 22, 2010, during Sunday Evening Story-Time, the ‘teaching elder’ told a tale of a man who was ‘padding his numbers on his internet site with a program that would force his visitor counter continually upward’. The Cunning Royal Jester made the statement that ‘anybody in advertising knows how to do that’. Well, I am ‘in advertising’ and I never heard of it. But since he brought it up, will say that I’m not surprised that there are programs available to jump up numbers, even though I was unaware of them before.
Some preachers frequently pull verses and portions of them out of context, with which they teach incorrect doctrine. Here is an example of how they could mis-use scriptures and mis-apply them to a particular situation:
2 Sam 18:1-a And David numbered the people that were with him,
2 Sam 24:10-a And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people.
Personally, I don’t feel bad about having had a visitor counter on my website for over 10 years. It was a common feature at the time it was initially set up. I never realized it could be suggested of number inflating.
1 Cor 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
Many factors, even desperation or fear, can motivate a person to make false accusations in an effort to lessen the credibility of an opposing position. I just had my visitor counter removed, so now, no one can see how MANY people hit my website daily. Actually, after I ‘thought about it’ .... no one should follow a crowd anyway. The website is maintained because of my desire to provide informative studies and sensible messages, that do not isolate and disregard 80% of God’s word of truth. The number of folks who view and study with www.magnifiedword.com should not be influenced by what others do or don’t do, nor of what a jester may say or not say. I don’t need to know the numbers because I go with the verses. The VERSES speak for themselves and I am pointing them out.
Psa 107:8-9 Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
9 For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness.
If you’re hungry, the table is set and ready. The food is plenteous, good, and free, so eat all you want.
Matt 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
As for counting the number of guests, it is unnecessary. All are welcome.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Some preachers frequently pull verses and portions of them out of context, with which they teach incorrect doctrine. Here is an example of how they could mis-use scriptures and mis-apply them to a particular situation:
2 Sam 18:1-a And David numbered the people that were with him,
2 Sam 24:10-a And David's heart smote him after that he had numbered the people.
Personally, I don’t feel bad about having had a visitor counter on my website for over 10 years. It was a common feature at the time it was initially set up. I never realized it could be suggested of number inflating.
1 Cor 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
Many factors, even desperation or fear, can motivate a person to make false accusations in an effort to lessen the credibility of an opposing position. I just had my visitor counter removed, so now, no one can see how MANY people hit my website daily. Actually, after I ‘thought about it’ .... no one should follow a crowd anyway. The website is maintained because of my desire to provide informative studies and sensible messages, that do not isolate and disregard 80% of God’s word of truth. The number of folks who view and study with www.magnifiedword.com should not be influenced by what others do or don’t do, nor of what a jester may say or not say. I don’t need to know the numbers because I go with the verses. The VERSES speak for themselves and I am pointing them out.
Psa 107:8-9 Oh that men would praise the LORD for his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of men!
9 For he satisfieth the longing soul, and filleth the hungry soul with goodness.
If you’re hungry, the table is set and ready. The food is plenteous, good, and free, so eat all you want.
Matt 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
As for counting the number of guests, it is unnecessary. All are welcome.
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Wednesday, September 1, 2010
The Bride of Christ, not a Biblical Term?
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on August 29, 2010, the Cunning Royal Jester made, what seemed to me to be a negative issue, out of the phrase ‘the bride of Christ’ not being in the Bible. He stated that it is purely a Roman Catholic term, all over their literature in their churches. He said, as if it was a stretch, the closest you’ll come to ‘the bride of Christ’ in scripture is in:
Rev 21:9-10 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
It looks to me like ‘the bride of Christ’ and ‘the bride, the Lamb’s wife’ are more accurate, related phrases .... than ‘rapture’ and ‘caught up’. So why fault ‘the bride of Christ’ users?
Rev 21:2-3 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Even being careful with the words, I believe you could rightly say that ‘Christ, the bridegroom, hath the bride’. Is that not ‘the bride of Christ’?:
John 3:28-29 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said,
I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.
29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
Paul wrote to ‘the church of God’ (at Corinth), ‘with all the saints’ (in Achaia) .... that they were espoused as a chaste virgin to Christ, their husband:
2 Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband,
that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Paul taught the same principle John taught concerning Christ and the church, as a man joined unto His wife:
Eph 5:31-32 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
The prophet Isaiah wrote to Israel about them being a virgin, a bride, and a wife .... and the LORD being a man, their husband and their bridegroom:
Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Isa 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin,
so shall thy sons marry thee:
and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride,
so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
The prophet Jeremiah also spoke of Israel as the LORD’s wife:
Jer 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (like Rev 21:2-3 and 2 Cor 6:16)
Paul also applied the promise to the church of God .... that was originally given to Israel:
2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Since John taught it in his gospel and in the Revelation ....
since Paul taught it to the church of God in 2 Corinthians and Ephesians ....
obviously, WE, the church of God, are the bride, the Lamb’s wife!
According to Paul, we will all be in our mother, new Jerusalem:
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Oh, I want to see Him, look upon His face,
There to sing forever of His saving grace,
On the streets of glory, let me life my voice,
Cares all past, home at last, ever to rejoice.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
Rev 21:9-10 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
It looks to me like ‘the bride of Christ’ and ‘the bride, the Lamb’s wife’ are more accurate, related phrases .... than ‘rapture’ and ‘caught up’. So why fault ‘the bride of Christ’ users?
Rev 21:2-3 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Even being careful with the words, I believe you could rightly say that ‘Christ, the bridegroom, hath the bride’. Is that not ‘the bride of Christ’?:
John 3:28-29 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said,
I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.
29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
Paul wrote to ‘the church of God’ (at Corinth), ‘with all the saints’ (in Achaia) .... that they were espoused as a chaste virgin to Christ, their husband:
2 Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband,
that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
Paul taught the same principle John taught concerning Christ and the church, as a man joined unto His wife:
Eph 5:31-32 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
The prophet Isaiah wrote to Israel about them being a virgin, a bride, and a wife .... and the LORD being a man, their husband and their bridegroom:
Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Isa 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin,
so shall thy sons marry thee:
and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride,
so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
The prophet Jeremiah also spoke of Israel as the LORD’s wife:
Jer 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
Jer 31:31-33 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. (like Rev 21:2-3 and 2 Cor 6:16)
Paul also applied the promise to the church of God .... that was originally given to Israel:
2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Since John taught it in his gospel and in the Revelation ....
since Paul taught it to the church of God in 2 Corinthians and Ephesians ....
obviously, WE, the church of God, are the bride, the Lamb’s wife!
According to Paul, we will all be in our mother, new Jerusalem:
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Oh, I want to see Him, look upon His face,
There to sing forever of His saving grace,
On the streets of glory, let me life my voice,
Cares all past, home at last, ever to rejoice.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
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