When Jesus’ disciples asked Him about the sign of His coming and of the end of the world (Matt 24:3), He taught them about events to recognize the beginning of sorrows (Matt 24:8), and what would happen after great tribulaton when Jesus will return from heaven. (We will read Matt 24:37-51):
Matt 24:37-39 But as the days of Noe were,
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood
they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The point here is, that people can be right beside each other, yet God’s wrath is pointed and precise:
Matt 24:40-41 Then shall two be in the field;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Jesus gave the instruction is to WATCH and BE PREPARED for His coming:
Matt 24:42-44 Watch therefore:
for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Jesus’ coming will be a time of JUDGMENT .... a time for REWARD of His saints:
Matt 24:45-47 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
Jesus’ coming will be a time of JUDGMENT .... a time for PUNISHMENT of His enemies:
Matt 24:48-51 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
According to PAUL also, writing by inspiration of God to the Thessalonians, when Jesus comes from heaven .... it will be a day of judgment for EVERYONE. (We will read 2 Thess 1:7-10):
On the LOST, Jesus’ coming will be a day of wrath and vengeance:
2 Thess 1:7-9 And to you who are troubled rest with us,
when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
On the SAVED, Jesus’ coming will be a glorious day:
2 Thess 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
According to PAUL also, writing by inspiration of God to the Romans, when Jesus comes from heaven .... it will be a day of judgment for EVERYONE. (We will read Rom 2:5-11):
Rom 2:5-6 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
On the SAVED, Jesus’ coming will be a glorious day of REWARD and everlasting life:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
On the LOST, Jesus’ coming will be a day of wrath and vengeance:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Paul repeated it again .... on the LOST, Jesus’ coming will be a day of wrath and vengeance:
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Paul repeated it again .... on the SAVED, Jesus’ coming will be a glorious day of REWARD:
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
NO ONE will be exempt from God’s righteous judgment:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
NO ONE will escape the judgment of God .... which will be .... when Jesus comes the 2nd time:
Heb 9:27-28 And as it is appointed unto men once to die,
but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
God’s wrath is targeted against His enemies .... not toward His saints:
Nahum 1:2 God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth;
the LORD revengeth, and is furious;
the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries,
and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.
Even back in MOSES’ day, God promised BOTH vengeance on His enemies and reward for His saints:
Deut 32:41-43 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy.
43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people:
for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries,
and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.
PETER also taught God’s judgment on BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous .... in the same day:
2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how
to deliver the godly out of temptations,
and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
JOHN also taught God’s judgment on BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous .... in the same day:
Rev 11:15-18 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come,
and the time of the dead, that they should be judged,
and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great;
and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
In the CONTEXT of the day of the Lord, PAUL told the saints to watch and be sober:
1 Thess 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
In the CONTEXT of the day of the Lord at the end, PETER told the saints to watch and be sober:
1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ are always focusing on Paul’s ‘program’ or Israel’s ‘program’ .... they better REPENT (change their mind) and get with GOD’S PROGRAM to see that when Jesus returns from heaven, in the end, at the last trump .... it will be HIS day!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Tuesday, September 28, 2010
An Instant Advantage?
During Sunday Evening Story-Time, on September 5, 2010, the IL teaching elder was talking about 1 Thess 4:16-17, and said, ‘The dead in Christ have an advantage over the alive because they get their glorified bodies an instant before we do.’ He mentioned this more than once. So what is his point in that? It seems like he is just filling up his story-time.
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Cunning Royal Jester kept focusing on the ‘reunion with the Thessalonians’ loved ones’ as ‘the comfort factor’ .... yet he teaches that ONLY the saints that have believed through PAUL’s ministry will be in what-he-calls ‘the rapture’. Therefore, what about any of the Thessalonians’ relatives or friends who trusted Christ through some other minister, such as Apollos, Peter, or even Christ Himself? Saints alive during the time Paul wrote this epistle had certainly believed through other ministers besides him. The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that there will be NO gathering together with them. He puts them in a different program, and a different church, and a different resurrection, and a different destiny:
1 Cor 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith,
I am of Paul (that’s the ‘mid-Acts hyper-dispensationalist’ group who claim to ONLY follow Paul);
and I of Apollos (he is not really an issue for the ‘mid-Acts-ers’ today);
and I of Cephas (that’s Peter, who ‘mid-Acts-ers’ say taught a DIFFERENT gospel than Paul taught .... and therefore, they believe a person cannot be saved today through Peter’s writings);
and I of Christ (‘mid-Acts-ers’ teach that Jesus in His earthly ministry was ‘another Jesus’ and that a “right-divider” cannot follow Christ).
GOD’s word through Paul in the same epistle said that it is CARNAL to make an issue over WHICH preacher taught you the gospel. ‘Mid-Acts-ers’ really need to pay attention to that:
1 Cor 3:4-5 For while one saith, I am of Paul;
and another, I am of Apollos;
are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos,
but ministers by whom ye believed,
even as the Lord gave to every man?
Paul taught by inspiration of God .... that the MAN who brought you to faith in Christ did not matter. But to the ‘mid-Acts-ers’, it does. If you don’t claim to be ‘of Paul’ .... then they EXCLUDE you from being in ‘the church, the body of Christ’. They make you an OUTCAST, when the scripture says that you belonging to Christ is the issue:
1 Cor 3:21-23 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul,
or Apollos,
or Cephas,
or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
The Cunning Royal Jester leaves all those saints in the ground, that have not believed through PAUL, at his ‘rapture-resurrection’. The Thessalonian saints would have no hope of reuniting with them! The Jester and the Jokers who promote his paradigm needs to accept GOD's WORD:
1 Thess 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
The Cunning Royal Jester preaches doctrines that are contrary to plain verses of scripture .... even those written by Paul.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The Cunning Royal Jester kept focusing on the ‘reunion with the Thessalonians’ loved ones’ as ‘the comfort factor’ .... yet he teaches that ONLY the saints that have believed through PAUL’s ministry will be in what-he-calls ‘the rapture’. Therefore, what about any of the Thessalonians’ relatives or friends who trusted Christ through some other minister, such as Apollos, Peter, or even Christ Himself? Saints alive during the time Paul wrote this epistle had certainly believed through other ministers besides him. The Cunning Royal Jester teaches that there will be NO gathering together with them. He puts them in a different program, and a different church, and a different resurrection, and a different destiny:
1 Cor 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith,
I am of Paul (that’s the ‘mid-Acts hyper-dispensationalist’ group who claim to ONLY follow Paul);
and I of Apollos (he is not really an issue for the ‘mid-Acts-ers’ today);
and I of Cephas (that’s Peter, who ‘mid-Acts-ers’ say taught a DIFFERENT gospel than Paul taught .... and therefore, they believe a person cannot be saved today through Peter’s writings);
and I of Christ (‘mid-Acts-ers’ teach that Jesus in His earthly ministry was ‘another Jesus’ and that a “right-divider” cannot follow Christ).
GOD’s word through Paul in the same epistle said that it is CARNAL to make an issue over WHICH preacher taught you the gospel. ‘Mid-Acts-ers’ really need to pay attention to that:
1 Cor 3:4-5 For while one saith, I am of Paul;
and another, I am of Apollos;
are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos,
but ministers by whom ye believed,
even as the Lord gave to every man?
Paul taught by inspiration of God .... that the MAN who brought you to faith in Christ did not matter. But to the ‘mid-Acts-ers’, it does. If you don’t claim to be ‘of Paul’ .... then they EXCLUDE you from being in ‘the church, the body of Christ’. They make you an OUTCAST, when the scripture says that you belonging to Christ is the issue:
1 Cor 3:21-23 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul,
or Apollos,
or Cephas,
or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
The Cunning Royal Jester leaves all those saints in the ground, that have not believed through PAUL, at his ‘rapture-resurrection’. The Thessalonian saints would have no hope of reuniting with them! The Jester and the Jokers who promote his paradigm needs to accept GOD's WORD:
1 Thess 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
The Cunning Royal Jester preaches doctrines that are contrary to plain verses of scripture .... even those written by Paul.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Monday, September 27, 2010
It’s Elementary, My Dear Watson
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on September 19, 2010, speaking of 1 Thess 5:2, the IL teaching elder asked, “Am I being clear enough with that? Here it’s called the day of the Lord. You and I are NOT going to experience the day of the Lord.”
Then he mentioned the references of 2 Thess 2:2 and Phil 1:6, and said, “We ARE going to experience the day of Christ.”
Then he said, “It’s elementary, my dear Watson.”
I would suggest he read the CONTEXT of 2 Thess 2:2 .... because it shows that the coming of the Lord and our gathering unto Him in the day of CHRIST .... CANNOT HAPPEN BEFORE a falling away and that man of sin is revealed when he sits in the temple and proclaims himself to be God.
The odd thing is .... the Cunning Royal Jester does not preach what the CONTEXT says about the day of Christ! He does not teach that the church will be on Planet Earth during the 70th week of Daniel. He says the church will be ‘raptured’ off the earth more than 7 years PRIOR to the time Daniel’s 70th week begins. During half-time is when that man of sin will be revealed for the imposter he will be.
2 Thess 2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Since the Cunning Royal Jester says we will NOT be here for the day of the LORD .... but we WILL be here for the day of CHRIST .... (because he makes them SEPARATE DAYS, separated by 7+ years), then, I wonder, which day would he say is the day of our LORD JESUS CHRIST? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
1 Cor 1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of the LORD JESUS? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Cor 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of GOD? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
The Cunning Royal Jester’s doctrine of DIVISION is outrageous and wrong!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Then he mentioned the references of 2 Thess 2:2 and Phil 1:6, and said, “We ARE going to experience the day of Christ.”
Then he said, “It’s elementary, my dear Watson.”
I would suggest he read the CONTEXT of 2 Thess 2:2 .... because it shows that the coming of the Lord and our gathering unto Him in the day of CHRIST .... CANNOT HAPPEN BEFORE a falling away and that man of sin is revealed when he sits in the temple and proclaims himself to be God.
The odd thing is .... the Cunning Royal Jester does not preach what the CONTEXT says about the day of Christ! He does not teach that the church will be on Planet Earth during the 70th week of Daniel. He says the church will be ‘raptured’ off the earth more than 7 years PRIOR to the time Daniel’s 70th week begins. During half-time is when that man of sin will be revealed for the imposter he will be.
2 Thess 2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Since the Cunning Royal Jester says we will NOT be here for the day of the LORD .... but we WILL be here for the day of CHRIST .... (because he makes them SEPARATE DAYS, separated by 7+ years), then, I wonder, which day would he say is the day of our LORD JESUS CHRIST? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
1 Cor 1:8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of the LORD JESUS? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Cor 1:14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Which day would the Cunning Royal Jester say is the day of GOD? Is it the day of the LORD or the day of CHRIST? Or is it yet ANOTHER day?
2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
The Cunning Royal Jester’s doctrine of DIVISION is outrageous and wrong!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Friday, September 24, 2010
The 2nd is NOT the 3rd
The issue of Jesus coming back to earth from heaven flows throughout the scripture. There is no logical reason to DIVIDE “His (future) coming” into 2 SEPARATE future comings, and then, not count the first one in the DIVISION. But that’s what ‘mid-Acts-ers’ do who follow the Cunning Royal Jester, who has been teaching this regularly during his Sunday Evening Story-Time.
It is NOT right to ‘make-up’ another appearance (and call it a mystery, secret appearing) BEFORE the SECOND coming, and not count it:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
When the SCRIPTURE tells of Christ’s SECOND appearance .... then we should BELIEVE what GOD says (not what the Cunning Royal Jester says). It is the SECOND time He will appear, not the THIRD.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
It is NOT right to ‘make-up’ another appearance (and call it a mystery, secret appearing) BEFORE the SECOND coming, and not count it:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
When the SCRIPTURE tells of Christ’s SECOND appearance .... then we should BELIEVE what GOD says (not what the Cunning Royal Jester says). It is the SECOND time He will appear, not the THIRD.
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Who Will Come .... on Who’s Day?
The Cunning Royal Jester continually makes a DIVISION between the day of Christ and the day of the Lord, saying that they are completely separate events that will happen more than 7 years apart. He did it again this past weekend, September 19, 2010, in his weekly Sunday Evening Story-Time.
He says that the day of Christ, which he teaches is “our gathering unto Him”, begins with what-he-calls “the pre-tribulation rapture”.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture?
The Cunning Royal Jester does NOT say what the SCRIPTURE says about the the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, our gathering together unto Him, and the day of Christ .... the TIMING of it:
2 Thess 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (What day? the day of Christ) shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Sunday night, September 19, 2010, the Cunning Royal Jester said, ‘Am I being clear enough with that? You and I are NOT going to experience the day of the LORD, but we ARE going to experience the day of CHRIST.’ According to the verses, he is wrong.
The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thess 2:1) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord:
1 Thess 4:15-18, 5:1-11 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thess 5:1 But of the times and the seasons (stay in the context .... the times and seasons of what? the times and seasons what he has been talking about, the times and seasons of the coming of the Lord, when the dead are raised and the alive are caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord and live together with Him), brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (also see 2 Pet 3:10)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them (2 Thess 1:7-10), as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day (what day? the day of the Lord) should overtake you as a thief. (Not because you have been 'raptured' more than 7 years earlier, but because God's wrath will be directed against His enemies, not against His saints - also see 2 Thess 1:7-10 and Rom 2:5-10)
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. (also see 1 Pet 4:7)
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep (these are the same people in verses 4:15-17), we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
The coming of the Lord (1 Thess 4:15) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (also 2 Thess 2:1, that we read at the beginning of this ‘Thought of the Day’):
1 Cor 1:7-8 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of the Lord:
2 Peter 3:9-10 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise (the promise of His coming, 2 Pet 3:4 in the context), as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The Cunning Royal Jester said, 'If you don't want the rapture to be before .... then you need to REDEFINE the day of the Lord.”
Actually, GOD defined the day of the Lord in the Bible. We've been reading about it. But I will humor the Jester anyway, so here goes:
The day of the Lord = the day of our Lord Jesus Christ = the day of Christ.
He says that the day of Christ, which he teaches is “our gathering unto Him”, begins with what-he-calls “the pre-tribulation rapture”.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture?
The Cunning Royal Jester does NOT say what the SCRIPTURE says about the the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, our gathering together unto Him, and the day of Christ .... the TIMING of it:
2 Thess 2:1-3 Now we beseech you, brethren,
by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (What day? the day of Christ) shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Sunday night, September 19, 2010, the Cunning Royal Jester said, ‘Am I being clear enough with that? You and I are NOT going to experience the day of the LORD, but we ARE going to experience the day of CHRIST.’ According to the verses, he is wrong.
The coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (2 Thess 2:1) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord:
1 Thess 4:15-18, 5:1-11 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thess 5:1 But of the times and the seasons (stay in the context .... the times and seasons of what? the times and seasons what he has been talking about, the times and seasons of the coming of the Lord, when the dead are raised and the alive are caught up in the clouds with them to meet the Lord and live together with Him), brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. (also see 2 Pet 3:10)
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them (2 Thess 1:7-10), as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day (what day? the day of the Lord) should overtake you as a thief. (Not because you have been 'raptured' more than 7 years earlier, but because God's wrath will be directed against His enemies, not against His saints - also see 2 Thess 1:7-10 and Rom 2:5-10)
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. (also see 1 Pet 4:7)
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep (these are the same people in verses 4:15-17), we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
The coming of the Lord (1 Thess 4:15) is the SAME as the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ (also 2 Thess 2:1, that we read at the beginning of this ‘Thought of the Day’):
1 Cor 1:7-8 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of our Lord Jesus Christ:
8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The day of the Lord (1 Thess 5:2) is the SAME as the day of the Lord:
2 Peter 3:9-10 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise (the promise of His coming, 2 Pet 3:4 in the context), as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
The Cunning Royal Jester said, 'If you don't want the rapture to be before .... then you need to REDEFINE the day of the Lord.”
Actually, GOD defined the day of the Lord in the Bible. We've been reading about it. But I will humor the Jester anyway, so here goes:
The day of the Lord = the day of our Lord Jesus Christ = the day of Christ.
The Jester is the one who needs to adjust his definition of the day of the Lord. He is the one who thinks there are 2 Jesus' .... he thinks the day of Christ is 7+ years before the day of the Lord.
Who will come on Who’s Day? The Lord Jesus Christ, Who is the Lord, Who is Christ .... will come on HIS day!
This is David Dowell saying, “Think about it!”
Sunday, September 19, 2010
DIVIDING Jesus Again .... How Embarrassing!
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on September 19, 2010, the IL ‘teaching elder’ gave us another outrageous DIVISION!
The Cunning Royal Jester specifically said,
"You and I are NOT going to experience the Day of the LORD ....
but we ARE going to experience the Day of CHRIST."
When the birthday of Jesus was announced to the shepherds, as they kept watch over their flock by night .... the angel of the Lord clearly identified JESUS as Christ the Lord:
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Peter proclaimed that ‘that SAME Jesus’ .... (which was the ‘EARTHLY Jesus’ .... that was crucified .... that the Cunning Royal Jester teaches was ‘another Jesus’) .... was BOTH LORD and CHRIST:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
PAUL, the very apostle ‘mid-Acts-ers’ claim to follow (but don’t), ALSO taught that CHRIST IS the LORD:
Rom 14:8-9 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Every week the Cunning Royal Jester looks more and more outrageous as he DIVIDES the Lord Jesus Christ. He claims to have ‘studied this stuff’ for over 40 years. He should be embarrassed!
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
The Cunning Royal Jester specifically said,
"You and I are NOT going to experience the Day of the LORD ....
but we ARE going to experience the Day of CHRIST."
When the birthday of Jesus was announced to the shepherds, as they kept watch over their flock by night .... the angel of the Lord clearly identified JESUS as Christ the Lord:
Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Peter proclaimed that ‘that SAME Jesus’ .... (which was the ‘EARTHLY Jesus’ .... that was crucified .... that the Cunning Royal Jester teaches was ‘another Jesus’) .... was BOTH LORD and CHRIST:
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
PAUL, the very apostle ‘mid-Acts-ers’ claim to follow (but don’t), ALSO taught that CHRIST IS the LORD:
Rom 14:8-9 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Every week the Cunning Royal Jester looks more and more outrageous as he DIVIDES the Lord Jesus Christ. He claims to have ‘studied this stuff’ for over 40 years. He should be embarrassed!
This is David Dowell, saying, "Think about it!"
Saturday, September 18, 2010
When a Shout is a Whisper
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ believe that ‘any moment’ Jesus will appear in the clouds, for a ‘mystery resurrection’ they call the ‘rapture’ .... several years before the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy begins .... for ONLY those saints that were saved through PAUL’s ministry. They think the rest of the world will be left behind to ‘wonder’ why these people are suddenly ‘missing’. They say that unbelievers will be completely unaware of the Lord’s coming .... even though it will be a 'NOISY event':
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
• with a shout,
• with the voice of the archangel,
• and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on June 27, 2010, with the IL teaching elder, he made a repeated point that the (so-called) ‘rapture’ will be a NOISY event. He said, "There’s this VOICE of a trumpet that God will sound. You’re going to have a shout, a voice coming from the archangel Michael, and then the trump of God - you’re going to have God’s voice. So it’s going to be a NOISY event, with 3 unique sounds."
So how in the world does the Cunning Royal Jester think that NOBODY else in the world, except the ‘few’ that trusted Christ through PAUL’s writings, will HEAR such loud NOISES?
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ DIVIDE-OUT everything that is not written by Paul, and they think the verse is talking about ANOTHER coming of the Lord .... years AFTER the (so-called) ‘secret rapture coming’.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ teach that just the folks who have believed ‘Jesus died for their sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day’ THROUGH PAUL’s epistles .... will be the only ones that to see Him or to hear all this noise.
According to his theology, a ‘SHOUT’ would have the effect of a ‘WHISPER’.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
1 Thess 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven
• with a shout,
• with the voice of the archangel,
• and with the trump of God:
and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
During Sunday Evening Story-Time on June 27, 2010, with the IL teaching elder, he made a repeated point that the (so-called) ‘rapture’ will be a NOISY event. He said, "There’s this VOICE of a trumpet that God will sound. You’re going to have a shout, a voice coming from the archangel Michael, and then the trump of God - you’re going to have God’s voice. So it’s going to be a NOISY event, with 3 unique sounds."
So how in the world does the Cunning Royal Jester think that NOBODY else in the world, except the ‘few’ that trusted Christ through PAUL’s writings, will HEAR such loud NOISES?
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ DIVIDE-OUT everything that is not written by Paul, and they think the verse is talking about ANOTHER coming of the Lord .... years AFTER the (so-called) ‘secret rapture coming’.
‘Mid-Acts-ers’ teach that just the folks who have believed ‘Jesus died for their sins, was buried, and rose again the 3rd day’ THROUGH PAUL’s epistles .... will be the only ones that to see Him or to hear all this noise.
According to his theology, a ‘SHOUT’ would have the effect of a ‘WHISPER’.
This is David Dowell saying, "Think about it!"
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